Month: September 2007
Master Class with Nobel Prize Winner
September 29, 2007
A short course in thinking about thinking on Edge.org is worth reading. This might not help with your buys and sells, but it sure adds perspective to the "mind" part of the game.
$5,000 "Baby Bond"
From the wires:
WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday that every child born in the United States should get a $5,000 "baby bond" from the government to help pay for future costs of college or buying a home.
Not sure what to make of this. Will there be a market I can speculate in? Perhaps a baby bond futures contract?
One View
September 27, 2007
From a reader:
Mr. Covel: I certainly agree with your comments that everyone should be able to participate in hedge funds; after all why should the hedge fund managers, companies, the well-to-do be the only ones to have the opportunity to lose their royal ass. Democracy means equal access to losses. I was looking at the last two issues of Barrons at the listing of the hedge fund returns over the last year, five years, etc etc; abysmal! A few exceptions. I don't understand why the funds that see their drawdowns terrifically high don't just use some discretion and get out. I realize this would be counter to the systematic approach that these funds espouse, but it would seem like it might make sense to sacrifice principle for policy; even Hitler was smart enough to pull back from Leningrad after Germany had lost over 250,000 personnel.
David Kass of the CFTC
September 26, 2007
I spoke with David Kass of the CFTC yesterday in Dallas. David is the Senior Economist in the Division of Market Oversight. I wanted to know if/when we would see the minimums come down so the average guy could participate in hedge funds and commodity trading advisers. His answer somewhat surprised me. While he was not offering too much, he did note that the minimums have come down dramatically in the last few years. It was refreshing to hear him say that. Everyone should have the ability to participate in hedge funds just like they can in mutual funds. There is no truly legitimate reason to keep people out.
Howard Lindzon Creator of Wallstrip
September 24, 2007
Howard Lindzon is definitely a blackberry guy. He is also the creator of Wallstrip and runs a fund of funds. In his best blackberry brevity he offered positive feedback on "The Complete TurtleTrader":
"Loved it as did my wife. Congrats."
Dallas Ritz Carlton Speech
September 22, 2007
I am speaking here in Dallas at the Ritz Carlton on Tuesday. Look at all of those pension funds representing firemen and teachers! Who said hedge funds are not for the little guy?
Interview with Nobel Prize Winner Dr. Vernon Smith
September 21, 2007
I interviewed 2002 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics winner Dr. Vernon Smith on camera today. My big question: where were the professors like Dr. Smith when I was in school?! What did we talk about? Markets, the history of markets, exchange, investor behavior and a whole host of subjects. A prior CNBC interview with Dr. Smith.
Cut Your Losses
September 20, 2007
In the last few days I conducted on-camera interviews with both Larry Hite and Eric Bolling. Very different in their trading, but philosophically, they both beat home the big point: cut your losses and you have a chance. That reminder never gets old.
NYC Shoot
September 19, 2007
Just finished three day shoot in New York City for a documentary underway.
A Losing Month Means What?
September 17, 2007
If you lose 50% in a month you have a problem. Big problem. But what if you lose 2%? Or 5%? Or 10%? Or 20%? Well, those numbers are not so easy to pin down. Read this article. What does that tell you? Was it a tough month for many? Of course. But telling you that hedge funds on average experienced losses for one particular month tells you zilch. What are you supposed to do with the information if you don't know that particular trader's strategy to begin with?
Feedback on Domain Sale
This post drove this feedback:
Mr. Covel: Can't pass this up. Indeed, I understand the concept and use of analogy. Use it myself now and then. I thought the story on Depend(s) simply was not constructive. My initial reaction was that, not unlike a good many other situations, the person who received the largess from P&G or whoever, may have, to put it very gently, been exploiting a situation. To people I know, I would be more blunt, and say rip off. But I am neither suggesting that or even saying that.
The flip side of your position might place blame on the decision-making of an entity that should have known better. Exploiting a situation is the nature of capitalism. Same thing in the markets. You seem to be placing a moral view on my action. Your argument would be akin to blaming the winning side for the losing side's losses in a zero sum game.
Dave Goodboy Feedback on The Complete TurtleTrader
I have known Dave Goodboy for a few years. He is not a trend following trader and has not been afraid of dropping criticism my way, but he did have a very nice comment on my new book:
"A historic romp into the minds, motivations and methods of the legendary turtles and the men who created them. Covel has written the definitive guide to the often misunderstood world of the turtles. Even as a turtle skeptic, i enjoyed Covel's book greatly, it should be required reading for all market participants"
Dave Goodboy
Eagle's View Asset Management, LLC
What Is A Market? A Simple Story About Depends.com
What is a market? To some people it is a simple question, not worth their brainpower, as they already get it. Those readers can go ahead and tune out, but for many others it is confusing concept. To many highly educated people the term simply doesn't resonate. They can't wrap their arms around it. I have an odd and simple example of a market (albeit a limited and illiquid one).
Years ago (back in 1997 I believe) I bought the domain name depends.com for $100 (among the hundreds of domains I bought across the board on all subjects). While the reaction of many might be that I was violating Kimberly-Clark's trademark, they would be wrong. Their trademark was 'depend' (no 's') and I never did anything with my 'depends' domain to damage or infringe on their trademark. Bottom line, 'depends' is simply a word and a great domain.
That said most people know adult diapers as 'depends' (with the 's') not as 'depend' (Kimberly-Clark's brand name). Not surprising Kimberly-Clark (symbol: KMB) first came to me in February 1998 to try and buy the domain depends.com. They offered $100 USD to "reimburse" me for the registration fee. I only paid $100 for the domain, so I immediately felt their low-ball offer and reasoning ("reimburse") was not serious.
In September 1999 they offered $500 USD.
In December 2000 they offered $250 USD.
In March 2001 they offered $2000 USD.
In January 2002 they offered $2000 USD.
In July 2005 they offered $4000 USD.
After 2005 I forgot about the domain and their offers. My market only had one bidder, Kimberly-Clark, and I had no time to actively build up bidders. It just was not on my radar screen, which was perhaps foolish because I have made $100,000 USD over the last 8 years selling a handful of domains. A nice part-time hobby if you will.
This summer though an article about a domain auction house caught my eye. I figured that perhaps they could create a market of more than one bidder. They listed depends.com and 7 people bid on it. Here is the bidding:
Bidder 6 Aug/23/07 12:34 PM EST 15,499 USD
Bidder 7 Aug/23/07 12:29 PM EST 14,999 USD
Bidder 7 Aug/23/07 12:28 PM EST 13,000 USD
Bidder 6 Aug/23/07 07:49 AM EST 10,100 USD
Bidder 5 Aug/20/07 01:13 PM EST 10,000 USD
Bidder 4 Aug/19/07 12:23 AM EST 1,000 USD
Bidder 1 Aug/18/07 02:54 PM EST 750 USD
Bidder 4 Aug/18/07 06:55 AM EST 600 USD
Bidder 1 Aug/17/07 05:02 AM EST 400 USD
Bidder 3 Aug/17/07 02:42 AM EST 350 USD
Bidder 1 Aug/17/07 01:34 AM EST 250 USD
Bidder 2 Aug/16/07 07:55 PM EST 200 USD
Bidder 1 Aug/16/07 03:31 PM EST 80 USD
The final sale price was $15,499 USD (small change in the big scheme of things of course).
The auction was anonymous, but WHOIS is not. Today I found out that Kimberly-Clark was the buyer after all these years. A market is ultimately a buyer and a seller agreeing on a price. That's it.
Postscript: I would be curious to hear from others about their analysis of the biases and opportunity costs of both Kimberly-Clark and myself regarding this transaction. To me, on a very low scale, low dollar amount, this transaction represents "markets" well.
Casting Call for Film Documentary
September 12, 2007
We are looking for diverse range of families and singles of all ages in Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area to tell their stories on camera. You must be available for two days October 1-15 for videotaping in home/or other local location. Please email 4-5 sentences about who you are, how you invest, why you'd like to be in the film and how you can be contacted. I am not averse to participants from other locations, but you would need to travel to DC area. Contact.
Comment on Trend Following from Reader
September 11, 2007
An email that came in today (edited down some for readability):
"I worked at a large London futures brokerage firm for much of the '90s...so had first hand insight into enough of the daily business in terms of trading of Bill Eckhardt and Richard Dennis and many of the ever growing army of "system traders" old and new, such as Dunn, to admire and respect the validity of their strategy.
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A Prescription for Everyone!
An email newsletter that came across my desk:
Risk levels continue to rise in the stock market as investors remain unsure as to whether or not the Fed will lower interest rates at their meeting later this month. Investors would be well served to keep a portion of their portfolio in the safety of cash and/or short-term bonds until the market sorts itself out as the odds are increasing that the market will retest the lows set on August 16th. If that is the case how the market reacts at that time will dictate whether or not the volatility will continue or whether the up-trend will resume. During times such as these it is better to protect your portfolio than to risk significant losses. The first rule of investing is to avoid the big loss. It is far easier over time to regain lost ground if you miss an opportunity while the market is advancing than it is to dig yourself out of a hole if you take a big loss. Just ask any investor who bought tech stocks in 1999-2000. The tech heavy NASDAQ 8 years later still needs a 100% gain just to break even with the all-time high set in 2000. Protect your portfolio as much as possible until a lower risk buying opportunity presents itself.
The line that really caught my eye was "until the market sorts itself out." That phrase puzzles me. What does it mean?
Bill Miller of Legg Mason on 'The Complete TurtleTrader'
September 09, 2007

A nice comment from Bill Miller about my new book The Complete TurtleTrader:
"If you want to beat the market, you have to do something different from what everyone else is doing, and you have to be right. In this fascinating and instructive book, Michael Covel tells how a group of novice traders used a system that generated trades that were both different and right, and which made them a lot of money. If you want to understand the real world of trading, read this book."
Bill Miller, Chairman and Chief Investment Officer,
Legg Mason Capital Management
Dunn Capital Volatility
I write in my book Trend Following of Bill Dunn's great success (he made hundreds of millions) and his nearly three decades of impressive performance. However, there has been negative performance in the last few years. His drawdown is well over 50% (not necessarily unusual for him), but it has extended for several years (that is unusual). Time will tell!
Flat Markets
September 05, 2007
Feedback in:
I just had one question in relation to "flat markets." You have mentioned in the podcasts, that it is during the time where markets are relatively flat, that trend followers are accumulating a lot of small losses. In order to minimize the size of these losses, would it not be best to be out of the market completely and then return to the market once an upward trend has been established?
Good point. Your question, your point is one of the many reasons you can find differing performance among traders who trade as trend followers.
Tough Chart
Even if you were the best fundamental analyst in the world, how do you explain (and trade) this chart.
Buffett's Top Picks Gives 404 Error
Saw this ad on Yahoo Finance tonight:

So I clicked and received:
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found
Made me smile. While I have been critical of the idea that Buffett's success can be emulated, I do know he is not pushing ads on Yahoo!
On the Outside of Hedge Funds Looking In
September 02, 2007
A great analysis about the game of governmental regulation over top investors. An excerpt:
"Why stop with hedge funds?" asked Kenneth A. Gruber, a professor of biological sciences at California State Polytechnic University at Pomona, Calif. He said if the SEC wants to be paternalistic it should look to protect investors from other risky investments, such as penny stocks. "Does any sophisticated investor [or the SEC] believe that penny stocks are a safer investment than hedge funds? I submit it is easier to lose one's shirt on penny stock investments than in hedge funds. Where will it end?"
Review of "The Complete TurtleTrader"
September 01, 2007
A review of "The Complete TurtleTrader" in the September 2007 issue of SFO Magazine.

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