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Trend Commandments

Michael Covel (FT Press)

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The Little Book of Trading

Michael Covel (Wiley)

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The Complete TurtleTrader

Michael Covel (Collins)

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Trend Following

Michael Covel (FT Press)

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Broke (Film DVD)

Michael Covel

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An Aha Moment!

From a student:

When I started the program, I was given the advice to read the first four books that you wrote before getting too involved in the course material. Well I made it to chapter two of “The Little Book of Trading” and then I promptly stopped. Why? I was reading about David Druz where a friend of his gave him some advice to finish medical school first and then concentrate on trading. I was in a similar situation. From early September 2011 to the middle of January 2012 I was going through the locomotive engineering program through the railroad I work for (BNSF). The stipulation of choosing to become an engineer is if you start the course and fail to complete it successfully you are fired from the company. That kind of pressure, together with the idea of having no job especially in this economy would have made me a terrible trader. So I took the advice from the book, successfully completed the engineering program and now the sword of Damocles has been finally removed. I figure that…training should have three phases. The first is to get the background by going through the four books. The second is to go through the course materials and complete the quizzes, and the third is to open up demo accounts and find ways to automate my trading as much as possible. I’ll have plenty of questions in the future about the best way to automate, what to look for in brokers, etc., but that will be after I complete the course material. My goal of this course is not to know market direction, but to internalize a proper reaction to the conditions presented before me.

Thanks Shane.

Houston Conversation with Investors

In Houston today addressing a group of investors. Good group. Skeptical and challenging–just the way it should be! Cool point? At least 3 hands went up of people who had been to Canadian, Texas. Canadian is not a pass through place…you have to be going there!

A Trend Commandments and Race Track View

Feedback in:

Mr. Covel, I wanted to say thanks for sending me a signed copy of your new book, Trend Commandments. I found it to be an intriguing story of the world’s top traders. The book really was an inspiration to me. The detail to your research paints a clear picture for the trend following philosophy. I had already read The Complete TurtleTrader and after you sent me a copy of your new book I was inspired to purchase Trend Following and The Little Book of Trading. I’m pleased to say I have now read them all. Even though each book was unique, they all hammered home the philosophy of trend following which is so much more than just identifying a trend on a chart.

Below I have included a journal entry of mine that I thought you might get a kick out of. From your books I recall many gambling comparisons so I thought I would share with you one of mine. I have recently said good bye to corporate America and have pursued my passion for trading full time. Please feel free to contact me if you ever need any assistance with anything. I would not hesitate for an opportunity to meet with you. Thanks again for your time and consideration.

-Brian

Journal Entry: Now that I have completed all of Michael Covel’s books, I realized trend following had many parallels. In dog racing the greyhounds are randomly selected for starting positions in boxes 1 through 8. Pull up annual track records from any greyhound park in America and you will most likely find at the end of each year, the #1 dog followed by the #8 dog has more wins than any other dog. Many times the win total of lanes one and eight nearly double those of lanes in between. The dogs in lanes 2-7 are subject more to the “bump and fall” factor associated from being sandwiched at the first two turns. In between dog races you will look around and see hundreds of people going through race stats, looking at past stats, times, splits, weight, experience etc. They have purchased tip sheets from the track pro and ask the “regulars” for there opinion. Gamblers will rush to see the walk through to examine the greyhounds leg size, coat color and take notice of who uses the bathroom on the track before the start. This is a great representation of the flaws of fundamental analysis. If you haven’t figured it out by now, the trend followers represent those placing bets on the #1 and #8 dogs. Knowing this data they then could create parameters, filtering based on risk, wager type and payout. Will they win every time? No, not even close but they do have an edge. Being a trend follower ironically means going against public opinion. Imagine a race where the crowd bets heavily on the favorite. You notice that the #1 dog is the slowest in the bunch. The odds sludge to 50:1. You stick to your strategy picking the slow, fearless pup. You could have easily bet on the favorite at 3:2 or you could think in terms of odds. Risk $1 to gain $50 (long shot) or risk $1 to win 50 cent (favorite). Your strategy does not involve picking the worst dog of the bunch and hoping for a miracle but picking the dog that has an advantage not based on there speed, but track position. The race begins and the favorite jumps out to a fast start! He juts in to turn one but has too much momentum and barrel rolls, taking out almost every dog in the field. That is except for the #1 dog who hung close to the rail. The #1 finishes the race in 32 seconds flat, nearly a half a second slower than the average time of the last 10 races for the favorite. After the race, no one talks about the victory of the #1 but the defeat of the favorite. This my friends is trend following at its finest.

I am not a dog track guy, so the field is open to offer praise/criticism!

Making Comparisons

Feedback in:

Michael, your product is over the top $ wise. The original Turtles had nothing but free money, information and a free education. On your site there is something about don’t bother if you don’t have cash or something to that effect. You are an entrepreneur not an educator. There is nothing wrong with that, but there is something wrong with saying you are here to educate for big dough. It is kind of a oxymoron. John

My firm has done the onerous research work for students. Some might want to learn, some not. Value is all relative to what you do with the training. If a client sees the price of our education as a stumbling block, or compares it to an experiment a few people participated in decades ago not to be repeated, that is fine too. No worries.

“An experiment a few people participated in decades ago not to be repeated” When you use their name (TurtleTrader) you are implying that they are in someway associated with your firm which implies that a code has been broken and you have the key. I’m not complaining as a matter of fact I watched your Kevin Bruce CD and pulled some interesting information off of it. I just wish you would tone down the dough a little and get satisfaction in helping others instead of silk sheets. Maybe in ten years you’ll read my book on how I did it for free. Thanks for your response and the very best to you. John

Across my 4 books and film people can see my influences are far beyond the Turtles. I welcome the feedback on our pricing, but it is worth pointing out that most freshman English classes at local colleges are far more pricey. In that sense our value is cheap by comparison.

Extra Note: Yes, a code has indeed been broken and a good many students have been helped over the years: read.

Review: The Little Book of Trading

Blogger Robert Weinstein reviews my book The Little Book of Trading:

Just when you may have started to believe it was safe to fade or dollar average a losing position, Mike Covel provides big reasons not to in his latest must read trading book “The Little Book of Trading: Trend Following Strategy for Big Winnings” by Wiley publishing. If I am truly honest, I have to admit I opened this book up with high expectations. I own other books written by Mike Covel including “The Complete TurtleTrader” and “Trend Following”. After all, I have read “turtle” and “trend” cover to cover more than once and most trading books I don’t even complete once.

Covel is able to articulate the emotions, trials, triumphs and most importantly the land minds waiting to blow up trading accounts. Covel’s rare genius of the pen is undoubtedly what many other authors hope to achieve when developing trading improvement books. In the little book, Covel brings the wisdom of many great traders and in a way that doesn’t require three solid days of reading. I picked up and read a chapter here and there and before I knew it, the book was done and I was finding myself reading again the pages I dog-eared (and I have a lot of pages marked). It’s hard to miss when you have names like Ed Seykota (one of the greatest traders ever on many levels), Larry Hite, Kevin Bruce, and many others. The biggest downside of The Little Book Of Trading is it ends near the 200 page mark. I would have been more than happy to keep reading upon reaching the last page. As someone who reads stock articles for hours a day, I really connected with the chapter titled “Stories Don’t Make You Money”, and I have to fully agree. Most of what I read is simply worthless at best, but at least normally transparent in their motivation. Covel writes “…And the demand is there. People want to understand so badly, and stories help to rationalize. It’s comfort food for the financial soul”, and this is so dead on. I have written negative articles about several stocks on seeking alpha causing a wave of angry comments that included all the reasons they read why “it was going to keep going up”, or “keep going down”. I have largely given up trying to explain everything they know is priced in and once the emotion leaves (think lady luck) as it always does, rational pricing takes over.

Covel wrote in chapter 5 titled “Think Like A Poker Player And Play The Odds” and this chapter alone has more required information than many complete books in regards to the mental aptitude, fortitude, and preparation required to succeed in the markets. “If you’re playing a positive expectation game, you don’t want to be knocked out. Good stuff always takes care of itself, but you have to stay alive. You can’t play if you’re dead”. This is such an important point, and I see the KIA’s of the trading battlefield all the time. I have been in the same chat room for almost every trading day for the past four years and on a regular basis for about 10 years. The warning signs are everywhere and usually the same. Traders put up large numbers, both winners and losers relative to their account. Then, like clockwork, a big fast moving stock captures everyone’s attention (not just the chat room but usually all of Wall St.) and the only sound before the explosion is the click of a keyboard. Unlike real KIA’s, many of the trading blow ups actually speak afterward. The focus on how much can be made instead of how much they can lose is the driving forces of every trading account implosion. Covel says it so well with the fact that even if you know ahead of time what an investment will do, it’s not enough information to maximize the return on investment. If you leverage up to far, you likely to get killed as the market zigzags its way to the ultimate price.

Timing is also vital and Covel covers this topic splendidly with tactics that do NOT include using judgment calls while in a trade. In a nutshell, when you are truly trend trading, you are always exiting when a trade is moving against you, and never trying to guess when the price is “too high / too low” or “has to come back some”. What really gives this “little book” and trend trading in general is greatest power is the ability to formulate a road map and plan of attack, which removes the thinking while in the trade. Removing the decision making while in “the fog of war” allows the trader to focus on becoming better instead of trying to predict the future.

I opened up Michael Covel’s latest book with high expectations, and once again I have finished reading regenerated and mentally more prepared to start my trading day tomorrow. Interestingly enough, I am not a trend follower, not at least in the sense of what most consider trend following. Nonetheless I gained a great deal of value by reading the book and so I am very confident you will also. Get a copy of this book, its mandatory reading if you want to know as much as you can about trading. You will very quickly understand why I say you don’t buy a Covel book; you invest in your trading knowledge.

I do not get paid to review or for sales of books I write about.

Always nice to know someone enjoys my work!

Drury Capital Feedback

Feedback in:

Hey Michael, I was introduced to your work a few years ago by Bernie Drury [featured in The Little Book of Trading] and wanted to say that I’m definitely a fan! I read Trend Following and The Complete TurtleTrader and enjoyed them both a lot. I’m actually a close friend of Bernie’s and worked for him as an intern analyst for 5 summers. He taught me pretty much everything I know about trading, so between Bernie’s guidance and what I’ve read in your books I’ve really gained a lot of insight towards developing my own trading strategy.

Lately I’ve been working on testing a strategy that combines longer-term trend following signals with shorter-term counter-trend signals (hoping that the counter trend positions catch some of the smaller moves over a long trend). I found the appendix on trend following with equities [in "Trend Following" book] to be very useful with regards to this strategy.

Your name showed up on “People You May Know” on Facebook, so I figured I’d send a message. Anyhow, I just wanted to say that I enjoyed the books quite a bit and look forward to reading Trend Commandments. Feel free to shoot me an email anytime at [email]. Keep up the great work!

Best Regards,
[Name]

Nice meeting!

“Tactical Momentum Strategy” (or Trend Following)

I spoke here (PDF) the other day. An attendee wrote me after:

Michael, I’ve gotten through the first chapters of your book [Trend Commandments or The Little Book of Trading; both were provided] and realizing I need to put it down until I finish with my CFA level one exam in December! But I do find it interesting and we had just been pitched a tactical momentum strategy earlier in the month, which when you strip it down is a trend trade. So very thought provoking for a shop that has been and still is a Bogle-head focused passive indexing strategy!

Sincerely,
[Name]
Deputy Treasurer
State of [One of the 50]

I will take the converts!

Note: The PDF above? “Secrets” was not my word. I actually nailed it in my talk (nicely of course!).

First Time: All (4) Michael Covel Books in Amazon Top #100

Today is the first time that all 4 of my books are on the Amazon “Investing” Top 100 at the same time:

Trend Commandments
Investing Book Rank: #41
Overall Rank of All Books: #3944

The Little Book of Trading
Investing Book Rank: #75
Overall Rank of All Books: #7130

The Complete TurtleTrader
Investing Book Rank: #79
Overall Rank of All Books: #7487

Trend Following
Investing Book Rank: #100
Overall Rank of All Books: #8767

Thanks for the support! And for the book Trend Following? Not bad considering the first edition was published 7.5 years ago! I try to make my work timeless, and these rankings let me know I am headed the right direction.

Feedback: “A Lifetime Strategy”

Feedback in:

Hello Michael,

I had one of your clients who purchased one of your courses call me last night. I told him I wished I had you as a mentor or had access to the knowledge you present when I started trend following. I have to be candid with you, anyone reading your material has to consider themselves to be very lucky. When I started investing in CTAs and my own trend following in 1994 it was really a challenge (actually still a challenge). I knew nothing at that point and it has been a marathon! Those that internalize the covenants expressed by you regarding trend following and have the mental fortitude to face the inherent challenges of trend following stand the distinct probability of compounding money overtime.

My story is very short but can be applied to everyone especially when they truly take to heart all of your materials. I sold a business in 1994 and had no idea what to do with the proceeds other than I did not feel comfortable just investing in the stock market. I asked my accountant & attorney for suggestions. They introduced me to as they stated, “Their most successful client as far as investing” (he was not a Wall street Guru, he was a dentist). They told me he was “Trend following”. I had no idea what that was nor did anyone I asked. In 1979 he also did not like the stock market and invested $200,000 in very simple basic robust ideas of trend following that are demonstrated in your books. Donchian breakouts, moving average cross overs…very basic concepts. Fast forward to today, he has a $5 million dollar account plus trading accounts for his kids & has pulled out over the years $12 million dollars. I would say humbly I probably made every mistake possible [learning trend following]. If I had read your books back when I started in 1994 I would have saved myself probably a tremendous amount of money and mental aggravation. However, from these mistakes I learned how to be a better trend follower. I learned the importance of risk per trade, the idea of how to determine which markets to trade, importance of risk per sector, importance of max $ risk per contract, importance of measuring open trade risk versus my core equity and of course margin to equity. Prior to your material this knowledge was not openly available.

More so in your material you have encouraged me to get through the inherent draw downs & even worse the extended durations of draw downs by proving the concept of compounding money over time with the commodity trading advisors you highlighted from Hawksbill to Dunn & many others. I vividly remember the challenges of 2005 and 2006. Through trend following I have been able to compound money over long periods of time even though it has not been easy. I am living overseas in Israel [now]. [I am] living my family’s dream because of the profits…generated over time via trend following. There is no strategy that is liquid, transparent and gives the potential to profit in all market conditions such as trend following. Albeit trend following might not be for everyone and past performance is not indicative of future performance, [but] trend following is a lifetime strategy for me.

I am truly surprised how many do not know or understand trend following. In addition to investing in CTAs [regulatory term for trend following] & running my own proprietary trend following trading, I recently started my own CTA to leverage my knowledge and experience gained over the years. One of the tools I have been using to educate potential clients is giving them a copy of one of your books.

I want to thank you for the fantastic work you have done over the years & wish you great success.

Andrew Abraham
www.AbrahamCTA.com

Thanks!

Weekend Readings

Recession, Restructuring, and the Ring Fence

Fund Blamed For Gold Sell Off, Salida Capital, Tumbles 37% In September, 49% YTD

A Much Deserved Blast From The Past

Thinking Outside the 1930s Box

Occupy Wall Street Exempts Billionaire Steve Jobs?

The marchers all want to shake down the rich. They want to take back money from the billionaires, except one:

Thorin Caristo, 37, a trained electrical engineer who runs an antiques shop in Plainfield, Conn. Many of the high-tech rebels considered Jobs “a leader, a pioneer,” said Caristo. “He made it easier for humans to communicate, and that’s what we’re doing, sharing our message.” Jobs was different from those on Wall Street who generate vast fortunes, he said. “I dislike billionaires with a complete disregard for the future of the human race, to make money,” he said, taking a deep puff from his cigarette as he sat on a stone park wall, with the sun setting over lower Manhattan. There are billionaires and then, there was “this different, quiet billionaire,” said Caristo. “He was a beneficial member of the human community.”

Staring down an angry mob wondering whether your fortune will be liked or disliked? Keeping your fortune is objective for some, subjective for others? The mob rules? Not a fun position to be it. The slippery slope…

Trend Commandments Coming to Korea

Trend Commandments has been signed to a Korean translation. That’s cool.

Trading Systems Courses

Books & Film

Broke (Film DVD)

Trend Following Live

Extras

 

Market Wizard Interviews


  • Jim Rogers with Michael Covel in Singapore.

  • Market Wizard Larry Hite discusses odds.

  • Harry Markowitz on Jim Cramer.

  • Trader Salem Abraham about the unexpected.

  • Michael Covel: Reason TV Interview.

  • Michael Covel in Brazil for BM&FBovespa.

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